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Fringe S2 (227 posts)
Post #1
9 Sep 2009
Michael Eidson
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Moved to Thursdays, premieres in 8 days. Up against Supernatural AND The Office, so Fringe is off to the online viewing ghetto for me.

Plus, I've still got to catch up on the end of last season, but from what I hear, the parallel universe stuff was pretty good.

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Post #2 in reply to post #1
9 Sep 2009
A. S. V.
Michael Eidson

We've been rewatching the first season and it holds up really well, better than first viewing actually. This is probably the fall premiere I'm most looking forward to. And yet, we still make take the comedies over it for live viewing. Hopefully that timeslot's not a killer.

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Post #3 in reply to post #2
9 Sep 2009
ARYEH
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Co-sign on this being the premiere that I'm anticipating the most.

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Post #4 in reply to post #1
10 Sep 2009
Joseph 'The Other Joe' Ackerman
Michael Eidson

Don't watch Supernatural (although I probably should, given my genre leanings), and the Office has always been a DVR show for me...after the final 3-4 episode run last season, this has become appointment TV for me.  Really looking forward to the new season.


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Post #5 in reply to post #4
10 Sep 2009
Michael Eidson
Joseph 'The Other Joe' Ackerman

That's about what I have left, the last 3 - 4 episodes. Going to get to those DVDs after Supernatural season 4. (I think you would like that one, FWIW.)

John Noble as Walter Bishop is reason enough to watch, and if they can break out of some of the formula that bothered me throughout season 1, I'll be more on board.

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Post #6 in reply to post #5
11 Sep 2009
Joseph 'The Other Joe' Ackerman
Michael Eidson

>>That's about what I have left, the last 3 - 4 episodes<<

I enjoyed it up to that point, but wasn't really that excited -- just better than average genre tv for me.  Those last few kicked it all up a notch for me.  Hope you enjoy them as much as I did.

>>John Noble as Walter Bishop is reason enough to watch<<

He was wonderful.  I also felt that all of the rest of the cast got better after the mid-point of the season.

 


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Post #7 in reply to post #6
18 Sep 2009
ARYEH
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Thoughts?

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Post #8 in reply to post #7
18 Sep 2009
robert 'lemming' black
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so, was torv pregnant or something? they kept her in the hospital for the entire episode and shoehorned in a new character (that surprisingly didn't die by episode's end)

it's odd. the new girl was actually fairly interesting but the inclusion of her just seemed a little sloppy

peter's move in the end was nice, though. they want results, we'll give them some weird tech they won't even understand. nice

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Post #9 in reply to post #7
18 Sep 2009
A. S. V.
ARYEH

Enjoyable, but the way they dialed things back with Dunham's partial amnesia makes me think they were really unsure about getting renewed last year. The preview clips have me strongly looking forward to upcoming episodes, though.

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Post #10 in reply to post #9
19 Sep 2009
Dave
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Yeah the amnesia really felt like they were backing off the entire end of the first season and I thought that was a bit of a betrayal to be honest. Hopefully they won't drag it out and we'll get some movement on it sooner rather than later.

Having said that, I loved the start. Walter checking out the car and then Oliva arriving back like that was excellent. Really dislike them killing off Charlie but I have to admit that quite like the whole "firing" thing they did. That was smart.

A two hour opener might have helped more. They reset to the first season but then in the last couple of minutes said they'd take it off somewhere else, might have been nice to see that here and now to build a strong opener.

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Post #11
19 Sep 2009
Alex P.
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Didn't seem very Fringe-y, that opening scene with Olivia coming through the windshield aside.  I hope that's just because they were trying to do exposition for new audience members.

--Alex

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Post #12 in reply to post #11
19 Sep 2009
Phil Davis
Alex P.

It was almost like an X-Files homage episode.  They had the plot nods like the shapeshifting soldier, the "religious" agent and the Congressional committee trying to shut them down.  To make it more explicit they even had a Senator namedrop the "X" program and a split second shot of Mulder on the TV during the open.

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Post #13 in reply to post #10
19 Sep 2009
Jill Stafford
Dave

yeahhhh, I didn't want Charlie offed either.  Hoping that his alternate universe side comes to take over once the shapeshifter is found out...


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Post #14 in reply to post #7
19 Sep 2009
Phil Davis
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I have a suspicion Peter's line about Walter only being able to work in his lab at Harvard will end up being very significant.

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Post #15 in reply to post #14
19 Sep 2009
ARYEH
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Lots of nice subtle touches I thought...and I fully agree with the homage aspect and that it warranted 2 hrs.

I really hope that Noble gets an Emmy nod this year. He is sheer poetry to watch. Pure childlike glee < "Stay out of the meds!" > to being robbed of candy crush.  Simply beautiful work.

Subtle touch with the Akido deflection. Exactly the right strategy in that situation.  Lesser shows would have done that totally wrong.

The typewriter bit was really imaginative.

Daniels/Broyles is a player throughout the multiverse it seems.

 

Couple of pretty big gaps at the end tho.,,,  it was pretty much hammered home the fact that 'they' can be anyone...and nobody thought to perform a Bashir test on Charlie?

And if the soldier had time to take out Charlie, shape  shift, put his clothes on, hide him, then grab the body of the nurse (wouldn't he have also had to shoot her?), he just left his critical tech on the floor?

 

 

 

 

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Post #16 in reply to post #14
19 Sep 2009
ARYEH
Phil Davis

" I have a suspicion Peter's line about Walter only being able to work in his lab at Harvard will end up being very significant. "

Good call.  Along with the Greek mantra.

I also thought that the Leary reference was nicely done.

 

 

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Post #17 in reply to post #16
19 Sep 2009
Ryan Rempel
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I think the amnesia bit is pretty necessary. They have to pull in new viewers to survive, and to do so they have to pull things back a bit story wise to let new viewers in without super complicated backstory.

 

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Post #18 in reply to post #11
20 Sep 2009
Black Nerd of Sector 2814
Alex P.

That episode's entire purpose was to get new viewers in on the groundfloor.  n almost every scene there was a character giving 30,000 foot view of the series so far.


Travis

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Post #19 in reply to post #18
21 Sep 2009
Dan E 'The Phat Controlla'
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I swear I could tell the parts Akiva Goldsman wrote versus the JJ Abrams parts.


World's Chattiest Heroes!
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Post #20
21 Sep 2009
Marc Mielke
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Strange bits of discontinuity, none of which really ruined the episode. The shapeshifting looked kind of hard and lengthy at the opening and all of a sudden became really quick--the last shift couldn't have taken more than five seconds given everything else guy had to do before Our Heroes got there.

Also...why did Walter buy milk for his custard? He has a cow! I love the cow, especially with a little birthday cap at the end. The Cow and Astrid are probably my favorite characters.

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Post #21 in reply to post #19
21 Sep 2009
Black Nerd of Sector 2814
Dan E 'The Phat Controlla'

I can just see you carving the count into a piece of wood with a bowie knife while you seethed at the screen.

"One Goldsman...Two Goldsman...Three Goldsman..."


Travis

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Post #22 in reply to post #20
21 Sep 2009
Black Nerd of Sector 2814
Marc Mielke

Because he tests drugs on that cow!  That cow's milk would probably kill Keith Richards!


Travis

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Post #23 in reply to post #20
21 Sep 2009
ARYEH
Marc Mielke

"...he last shift couldn't have taken more than five seconds given everything else guy had to do before Our Heroes got there."

Yep. not to mention having to be a quick change artist.  Poor plotting there.  After watching that piece I was able to craft a way to get back to replacing Charlie without employing such a huge logic gap.

 

I'm hoping that Astrid's part will grow a lot larger.  She's a very capable actress... and extremely easy on the eyes.

 

 

 

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Post #24 in reply to post #22
21 Sep 2009
ARYEH
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Richards been dead for twenty years already, hasn't he?

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Post #25 in reply to post #22
21 Sep 2009
robert 'lemming' black
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they have shown him milking the cow before... of course, that could have been to test the milk

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Post #26 in reply to post #24
21 Sep 2009
Black Nerd of Sector 2814
ARYEH

He may be undead, but, he's at least still ambulatory.


Travis

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Post #27 in reply to post #25
21 Sep 2009
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robert 'lemming' black

That's always what I figured.


Travis

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Post #28 in reply to post #26
21 Sep 2009
ARYEH
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Ummm...yeaah... definitely zombiefied.  Possibly one of Walter and Bellie's early experiments in reanimation.

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Post #29 in reply to post #22
21 Sep 2009
Marc Mielke
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Okay, but that would be one BADASS custard!

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Post #30 in reply to post #20
23 Sep 2009
Aman 'Aman About Town' Chaudhary
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I think the length and difficulty of the shape-shifting at the beginning might have had to do with the soldier having just been in a huge car wreck?

Also, a sit-com spin-off of Astrid and the Cow would be awesome! :)

 Aman-About-Town
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