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The Comics Spoiler Thread, featuring Blackest Night #6 Spoilers, Potentially (7154 posts)
Post #7055 in reply to post #7052
7 Feb 2010
Si
Daniel 'Deadpool's Reference Guy' Coyle

It makes me laugh, I used to have a role playing game character named Twilight, so called because he was really dim.

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Post #7056
24 Feb 2010
Joe '.' Gualtieri
All

The last page to Blackest Night #7, which some folks around here called ages ago.

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Post #7057 in reply to post #7056
24 Feb 2010
John Fellows
Joe '.' Gualtieri

Oh, is that out this week? I had completely lost track of the whole thing. Having an eight issue mini plus two other ongoings to follow leaves me having to read 24 issues just to follow the basic plot. That's if you ignore the completely worthless spin-off minis as well.

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Post #7058 in reply to post #7056
24 Feb 2010
Mario Di Giacomo
Joe '.' Gualtieri

In all fairness, the who is a surprise even if the what isn't.

Mario Di Giacomo
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Post #7059 in reply to post #7056
24 Feb 2010
Black Nerd of Sector 2814
Joe '.' Gualtieri

He'll fail, then Jordan will get the ring intensifying their feud.


Travis

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Post #7060 in reply to post #7059
24 Feb 2010
Ryan Rempel
Black Nerd of Sector 2814

Seems more likely it will be a heroic sacrifice to me.

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Post #7061 in reply to post #7059
24 Feb 2010
Mario Di Giacomo
Black Nerd of Sector 2814

Actually, it makes a bizarre sort of sense, given that the Black Lanterns have a problem with characters that are associated with "Order".  And that's been his schtick for a while.

Mario Di Giacomo
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Post #7062 in reply to post #7060
24 Feb 2010
Black Nerd of Sector 2814
Ryan Rempel

I hope they don't do that.  It's Hal's book!


Travis

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Post #7063 in reply to post #7058
24 Feb 2010
Joe '.' Gualtieri
Mario Di Giacomo

No, there were people here who specicallyed called it being that character. I still have have figured it was Jordan, but that character would have been choice number #2.

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Post #7064 in reply to post #7063
24 Feb 2010
Mario Di Giacomo
Joe '.' Gualtieri

Ah.  I wasn't paying that close attention.

 

Mario Di Giacomo
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Post #7065 in reply to post #7063
24 Feb 2010
Paul F. P. Pogue
Joe '.' Gualtieri

In the early leadup I was dead certain it would be that character, but started to doubt once they went well out of their way to expose Hal to as many ring colors as possible.


Paul F. P. Pogue

writer/photographer

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Post #7066 in reply to post #7065
25 Feb 2010
Daniel 'Deadpool's Reference Guy' Coyle
Paul F. P. Pogue

I liked the issue's other big reveal the first time, when it was the reveal in Earth X. C'mon, egg of life, bad guys wanna harvest it? If they harvest it, they all die?

--Dan
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Post #7067 in reply to post #7066
25 Feb 2010
Paul F. P. Pogue
Daniel 'Deadpool's Reference Guy' Coyle

Not to mention that it was practically an afterthought: "By the way, here's a great big reveal about the origin of the universe. Look, a fight scene!"

I really like Johns' take on Green Lantern mythology as a whole, but I feel that he keeps misfiring on handling Ganthet as the One Guardian Who Really Gets It. Then again, I don't think anyone really ever did a good job following up on "Ganthet's Tale," which established him as a borderline lunatic and, looked at through 20/20 hindsight, bearing a fair amount of responsibility for the Parallax mess, as he deliberately fed Hal Jordan information about the creation of the universe that he knew could drive him insane.


Paul F. P. Pogue

writer/photographer

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Post #7068 in reply to post #7067
25 Feb 2010
John Fellows
Paul F. P. Pogue

Yeah, it was kinda, "Oh, and by the way, the Earth is really the centre of the universe and wear all life sprung from. KTHNXBAI." It would have been nice if there had been some foreshadowing of this turn of events. I'm kinda burnt out on BLACKEST NIGHT now as it seems to have lost all cohesion and just become one long boring fight scene. SINESTRO CORPS WAR had peaks and troughs and felt like a battle - this is just a 25 issue free-for-all.

And in other complete-lack-of-spoiler news, that scene from the end of last issue's DARK WOLVERINE which apparently showed Daken killing Norman Osborn? Oh yeah, that was just a dream sequence. CHEATING CUNTS. And then over in AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE, nothing happens, but we get to watch the scenes of SIEGE #2 from a slightly different angle. It would be nice if events could occur in other titles that would tie in with the main story. But no, this is Bendis' ball and you don't get to play, you just get to watch.

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Post #7069 in reply to post #7067
25 Feb 2010
Daniel 'Deadpool's Reference Guy' Coyle
Paul F. P. Pogue

Larry Niven has a lot to answer for, doesn't he.

--Dan
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Post #7070 in reply to post #7067
25 Feb 2010
Jesse Baker_Baker
Paul F. P. Pogue

Given how DC has gotten plenty of milage out of Ganthet the GOTU who isn't full of shit/sees the big picture, I'm ok with them disregarding Ganthet's original first appearance portrayal. Though at the same time, I'm shocked that Geoff hasn't retconned the whole thing to establish that the Guardians knew the truth about the Crisis and that Ganthet's knowledge of the cosmic horror that was COIE and it's consequences upon the timestream being the chief motivator for the Parallax entity attempting what it did during Zero Hour.

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Post #7071 in reply to post #7068
25 Feb 2010
Jesse Baker_Baker
John Fellows

And in other complete-lack-of-spoiler news, that scene from the end of last issue's DARK WOLVERINE which apparently showed Daken killing Norman Osborn? Oh yeah, that was just a dream sequence. CHEATING CUNTS. And then over in AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE, nothing happens, but we get to watch the scenes of SIEGE #2 from a slightly different angle. It would be nice if events could occur in other titles that would tie in with the main story. But no, this is Bendis' ball and you don't get to play, you just get to watch.

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The previous issue outright STATED that Daken/Osborn was a vision or some sort of possible future. Which may still happen BTW, since the writer of Dark Wolverine stated that Daken had a big role in Seige that Bendis somehow did approve of (which makes me think that Daken DOES "kill" Osborn, even if Osborn ends up surviving the wound due to his own healing factor).

That said, they DID pull the trigger on the long overdue "Tigra does horrible things to the Hood" pay-off that Gage promised about a year and a half ago in Avengers Initiative.

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Post #7072 in reply to post #7068
25 Feb 2010
Mario Di Giacomo
John Fellows

It wouldn't bother me much if they tied "the Entity" (Auntie Entity?) to the Lords of Order & Chaos somehow, but the sheer "bwah?" aspect of the Earth being the source of life 10 billion years before the planet even formed was a real stiumbling block to me.

This appears to be Johns' new pet storytelling trope, though, since he also had Barry Allen be the cause of the Speed Force.  It wouldn't surprise me if he brings up the Life Equation at some point.

 

Mario Di Giacomo
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Post #7073 in reply to post #7068
25 Feb 2010
Kevin 'MUDGEON' MacDonald
John Fellows

I'm right there with you. I've enjoyed some individual moments and cliffhangers, but overall it feels like there just isn't as much organization to the storytelling in Blackest Night. If you look at something like Annihilation and the sequel, those were big wars that felt like they involved multiple fronts and isolated pockets of fighting where there were lots of little wins and losses building toward the climax. BN doesn't feel anything like that. It seems like everyone is involved in one big Braveheart-style brawl.

Or maybe it's because all the isolated fights have basically been the same. Black Lantern Dead Character(s) X shows up and talks mean shit to the star of Book X and then they fight as Star X keeps reaffirming that Black Lantern Dead Character X isn't the real Dead Character X until someone discovers how to use light the right way and BLDCX goes away.

Or maybe it's all just gone on so long that I can't keep anything straight in my head. It feels like the DCU has been fighting zombies forever now.

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Post #7074 in reply to post #7073
25 Feb 2010
Black Nerd of Sector 2814
Kevin 'MUDGEON' MacDonald

I bet it will read pretty well in a collected edition.


Travis

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Post #7075 in reply to post #7074
25 Feb 2010
Kevin 'MUDGEON' MacDonald
Black Nerd of Sector 2814

Maybe. I read Annihilation and Conquest in trade only, so maybe that's skewing my perception of how they came off month to month. War of Kings certainly didn't feel so epic, but I think it wasn't meant to be as big as the previous two crossovers.

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Post #7076 in reply to post #7075
25 Feb 2010
Khelan Bhatia
Kevin 'MUDGEON' MacDonald

I'm kind of stupidly excited about the Thanos event coming up in the Marvel cosmic books.  Infinity Gauntlet still remains one of my favorite events ever; I'm hoping DnA can come close to matching it.

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Post #7077 in reply to post #7076
25 Feb 2010
Black Nerd of Sector 2814
Khelan Bhatia

I'd really like it if the Marvel Earth based heroes can get involved in this stuff again.


Travis

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Post #7078 in reply to post #7076
25 Feb 2010
Kim W.
Khelan Bhatia

Ooh, a Thanos event? Please tell me more.

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Post #7079 in reply to post #7077
25 Feb 2010
Kevin 'MUDGEON' MacDonald
Black Nerd of Sector 2814

I kind of like the that Earth isn't that involved with the cosmic stuff beyond a couple of the players being from there. Gives a sense of scope to everything, like it really is a Marvel Universe.

But I think the Earth heroes will have to eventually get involved with one of the cosmic storylines. It seemed a little weird that there was very little direct crossover following Secret Invasion.

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Post #7080 in reply to post #7078
25 Feb 2010
Khelan Bhatia
Kim W.

This should give you a little bit of a synopsis:

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2010/02/the-thanos-imperative-to-ignite-in-marvels-cosmic-books/

I recently read the entirety of the Marvel Cosmic stuff recently , with the exception of the War of Kings since it's out of print (grumble, grumble), and they may be the most fun comics I've read in quite a while.

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Post #7081 in reply to post #7077
25 Feb 2010
Khelan Bhatia
Black Nerd of Sector 2814

Me too.  Esp. the FF and Thor.

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Post #7082 in reply to post #7080
25 Feb 2010
Jesse Baker_Baker
Khelan Bhatia

You know, the only imperitives I want to see Thanos, upon his return, engage in are saving his heterosexual life partner Adam Warlock from becoming Magus, and tormenting Reed Richards via destroying everything Reed loves and generally making the asshat's live utter hell so as to even make Doom feel pity on Reed and have to fight Thanos over how Thanos has gone to far in trying to destroy Doom's nemesis.

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Post #7083 in reply to post #7077
25 Feb 2010
Daniel 'Deadpool's Reference Guy' Coyle
Black Nerd of Sector 2814

Well, Kang's coming back...

...in Bendis' next Avengers arc.

--Dan
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Post #7084 in reply to post #7082
25 Feb 2010
Khelan Bhatia
Jesse Baker_Baker

Sounds like an unused Giffen plot.

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