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Morrison's Final Crisis (Contains spoilers!) (2937 posts)
Post #2735
13 Feb 2009
Juan Arteaga
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From: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/020913-DiDio20.html

"4. When will we learn the fate of Hawkman and Hawkgirl?

DD: Actually Hawkman and Hawkgirl are recuperating right now from the events of Final Crisis, and they'll be seen in one or two spots coming up, but they also have a big role in the first part of Blackest Night."

So, now they are not dead. No wonder that scene had to be confusing.

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Post #2736 in reply to post #2735
13 Feb 2009
Mario Di Giacomo
Juan Arteaga

Then again, showing up in BN doesn't require one to be alive...

Maybe they are resting up before the next reincarnation?

Mario Di Giacomo
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Post #2737 in reply to post #2736
13 Feb 2009
Daniel 'Deadpool's Reference Guy' Coyle
Mario Di Giacomo

Well, Starlin's special seemed to throw out the reincarnation as IT WAS ALL A LIE, but it was so confounding to most people I suspect they'll drop it (I didn't like it that much either, even though I hate the reincaration retcon).

--Dan
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Post #2738 in reply to post #2736
13 Feb 2009
Juan Arteaga
Mario Di Giacomo

"Maybe they are resting up before the next reincarnation?"

They are going be born again? HAWKBABIES!

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Post #2739 in reply to post #2666
13 Feb 2009
dietsch
Kim W.

The DiDio interview that Juan just linked to fills in the rest:

FC Aftermath: Run!        Matthew Sturges     Freddie E. Williams II
FC Aftermath: Escape     Ivan Brandon         Marco Rudy
FC Aftermath: Ink          Eric Wallace           Fabrizio Fiorentino
FC Aftermath: Dance      Joe Casey             ChrisCross

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Post #2740 in reply to post #2739
13 Feb 2009
Kim W.
dietsch

Someone was talking about the supposed "no-marks" who ended up writing Angel: After the Fall in the TV forum. They need to see this list for what real "no-marks" look like.

On the other hand, if you're going to try out new talent, you might as well do it with spinoffs from your last big event.

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Post #2741 in reply to post #2737
13 Feb 2009
Mario Di Giacomo
Daniel 'Deadpool's Reference Guy' Coyle

What happened to Starlin?  Sure, his 70's work borrowed a lot from Kirby & Moorcock, but it was at least readable, by all accounts.  Nowadays, he's simply rewriting characters to fit his storytelling tics.

Mario Di Giacomo
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Post #2742 in reply to post #2740
13 Feb 2009
Juan Arteaga
Kim W.

Joe Casey and Chris Cross are known. It won't be All Star those Japanese guys from Final Crisis, but they are known.

Freddie E. Williams was one of the guys who penciled Seven Soldiers Mister Miracle. I know I have heard Sturges' name before. I have no clue what he has done for a living before this, though.

Same with Ivan Brando.

Marco Rudy, Eric Wallace, and Fabrizio Fiorentino; their moms don't know who the hell they are. 

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Post #2743 in reply to post #2742
13 Feb 2009
Mario Di Giacomo
Juan Arteaga

Sturges took over Blue Beetle, and will be closing out the book.

Mario Di Giacomo
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Post #2744 in reply to post #2743
13 Feb 2009
Juan Arteaga
Mario Di Giacomo

Oh yeah! He co-writes Jack of Fables and House of Mystery with Willingham. Oh, he is okay in my book then.

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Post #2745 in reply to post #2742
13 Feb 2009
Ross B
Juan Arteaga

Joe Casey is a fine choice to follow up on one of Morrison's ideas... he gets Morrison's ideas better than most.

Ivan Brandon has done some stuff for Image (NYC MECH, some stories for the 24SEVEN anthologies, and the upcoming VIKING series).


- ross
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Post #2746 in reply to post #2740
13 Feb 2009
Justin Jordan
Kim W.

Yeaaaaah, most of those 'no marks' are well established in comics: Two of the writers have written or are writing well regarded series for DC in the past, and one is a pretty well known indy guy. Likewise, Freddie Williams has been the regular artist on a couple of relatively high profile book and Chris Cross is freaking Chris Cross.

Or rather, mid level writers and artists /= no marks.

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Post #2747 in reply to post #2746
13 Feb 2009
The Official French Italian German Of The V
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Any of you moaning minnies who hated Final Crisis want to send me your copies of Batman #682-683? The fuckers are sold out at Diamond apparently.


i have a blank sig too
Post #2748 in reply to post #2735
14 Feb 2009
Dwayne 'Maestro' McDuffie
Juan Arteaga

I wrote a scene set at their gravesite that I recently had to quickly rewrite into something not very good.

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Post #2749 in reply to post #2748
14 Feb 2009
Juan Arteaga
Dwayne 'Maestro' McDuffie

Ouch. So there is some truth to what Dixon said about Didio changing his mind all the time.

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Post #2750 in reply to post #2748
14 Feb 2009
Jacob Corbin
Dwayne 'Maestro' McDuffie

I wrote a scene set at their gravesite that I recently had to quickly rewrite into something not very good.

"Shaken by their experience with near death, Hawkman and Hawkgirl visit their local family law practitioner to learn the six things everyone needs to know about writing their Living Will!"

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Post #2751 in reply to post #2750
14 Feb 2009
Dwayne 'Maestro' McDuffie
Jacob Corbin

That's much better than what I did.

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Post #2752 in reply to post #2751
14 Feb 2009
Mario Di Giacomo
Dwayne 'Maestro' McDuffie

"Given their unique circumstances, the Hawks buy a crypt with a revolving door."

Mario Di Giacomo
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Post #2753 in reply to post #2751
14 Feb 2009
Black Nerd of Sector 2814
Dwayne 'Maestro' McDuffie

If it involves HAwkgirl waking u and finding Hawkman in the shower Patrick Duffy-style, it's all good.


Travis

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Post #2754 in reply to post #2695
14 Feb 2009
Matthew Mayhem
Peace!

Reading your post after Travis's was kind of hilarious. For a second I was wondering what they'd call the trade.

Matthew Murray
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Post #2755 in reply to post #2748
14 Feb 2009
Matthew Mayhem
Dwayne 'Maestro' McDuffie

Do you actually enjoy writing JLA? It just seems to be constant editorial rewrites and bad art.

Matthew Murray
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Post #2756 in reply to post #2752
14 Feb 2009
Paul F. P. Pogue
Mario Di Giacomo

Heh. Reminds me of that timeless line from the end of the prologue to the first John Carter book: "He directed that he be laid in a tomb with an open casket and a door mechanism that could be opened ONLY FROM THE INSIDE."


Paul F. P. Pogue

writer/photographer

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Post #2757 in reply to post #2755
14 Feb 2009
Daniel 'Deadpool's Reference Guy' Coyle
Matthew Mayhem

It's still DC's best-selling non-Morrison, non-crossover book.

--Dan
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Post #2758 in reply to post #2755
15 Feb 2009
Dwayne 'Maestro' McDuffie
Matthew Mayhem

No, I don't.

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Post #2759
24 Feb 2009
Peace!
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http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/02/24/final-crisis-faq/

 

 


Me-Phist-ed!
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Post #2760 in reply to post #2759
25 Feb 2009
John Romero
Peace!

so, apparently most of the contradictions in FC are attributed to time distortions which i'm sure will at some point be attributed to superboy prime punching the walls of time.

john romero
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Post #2761 in reply to post #2760
28 Feb 2009
Eduardo Blake
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[url=http://www.newsarama.com/comics/020928-Mega-DC-Nation.html]http://www.newsarama.com/comics/020928-Mega-DC-Nation.html[/url]

QUESTION: At the end of Final Crisis, there is a panel with Arthur Curry, but we've also heard that Arthur Curry will be in Blackest Night. Are they the same Arthur Curry, and if so, how?

DD - They are not the same ones. One thing that Grant Morrison wanted to do was, with a big event story featuring the entire universe, some characters would be conspicuous by their absence. So the Arthur Curry used in Final Crisis is simply an alternate universe Arthur Curry who came over to help out. But the bigger story to tell is in Blackest Night. The panel in Final Crisis was simply an Easter Egg put in for the fans, but the bigger story is yet to come.

 

...

You know, sometimes is really hard to take these people seriously at all.

 

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Post #2762 in reply to post #2761
28 Feb 2009
Daniel 'Deadpool's Reference Guy' Coyle
Eduardo Blake

I've said this before, probably, but reading DiDio brings to mind that Big Train sketch where George Martin is taken hostage by the Iranians and fails to notice.

--Dan
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Post #2763 in reply to post #2761
1 Mar 2009
Jesse "Booze Is My Anti-Drug" Baker_Baker
Eduardo Blake

The funny thing is that, if Morrison was so dead set on using Aquaman, he could have simply used Superman Beyond to set up the cameo in the finale via having alternate universe Aquaman showing up to help Superman out over there. Or pressured Geoff into removing Aquaman from "The Blackest Night"/force Geoff to have to bring Barry back in the pages of Flash: Rebirth instead of FC, and make Aquaman's return the cornerstone of Final Crisis instead of Barry's return.

 

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Post #2764 in reply to post #2763
2 Mar 2009
Marc Mielke
Jesse "Booze Is My Anti-Drug" Baker_Baker

But...everyone knew Barry was dead. It's been a requirement for all DC comics to mention the fact every few issues since Crisis. I didn't know Aquaman was dead. Did anyone else know?

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